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The first [[seminarImage:Lacan_Seminar_VIII.jpg|border|400px|right]] In <i>[[La relation d'objet]]</i> [[Lacan]], open to the public, takes place at provided a way of [[Sainte-Anne Hospitalunderstanding]] just after the creation paradoxical function of [[transference]] in the [[Sanalytic]]al [[cure]].F.P In its [[symbolic]] aspect ([[Société Française de Psychanalyserepetition]]). it helps the [[cure]] [[Lacanprogress]] cuts in by revealing the study of [[Freudsignifier]] by dint s of his theory on the [[subject]]'s [[history]]. He argues that in its [[imaginary]], the aspect ([[symboliclove]] and the [[realhate]]) it [[acts]] as a [[resistance]]. He uses [[Plato]]'s <i>[[The focal point of Symposium]]</i> to illustrate the discussion is rapport between analysand and analyst: [[Alcibiades]] compares [[Socrates]] to a box enclosing a precious [[object]], <i>[[agalma]]</i>. Just as Alcibiades attributes a hidden treasure to Socrates, so too the direction [[patient]] sees his [[object]] of [[desire]] in the [[cureanalyst]]. Participants are allowed to make presentations[[Lacan]] articulates the <i>[[objet a]]</i> with <i>[[agalma]]</i>, comments and objections. Through the case histories [[object of desire]] we seek in the [[Freudother]]. Before, the emphasis was placed on repetition, now it is placed on [[transference]] [[Kleinlove]], Kris and <i>[[amour]] de [[Balinttransfert]]</i>: both are inseparable, but the debate elucidates perspective changes. To insist on [[repetition]] means to refuse to see in the analytic [[situation]] an [[intersubjective]] rapport to be dealt with here and now. What [[speech]] constructed in the [[past]] can be deconstructed in the [[cure]] by [[speech]]: the convergence [[cure]] is "pure [[symbolic]] [[experience]]." On the [[individual]] level, it allows for "the reshaping of the [[psychoanalysisimaginary]], " on the theorethical level for an intersubjective [[philosophylogic]]to be constructed. Thus, [[theologyanalysis]] is described as a [[particular]] experience of [[desire]], on the side of [[sexuality]]. [[linguisticsSpeech]] and has an effect only after [[game theorytransference]]. In keeping with this heterogeneous approach, For [[Lacan]] will further appeal to "it is from the [[position]] that [[transference]] bestows the [[scienceanalyst]] of with that he intervenes in [[transference]] itself," and "[[transference]] is [[opticsinterpreted]] to systematize his analyses on the basis of and with the aid of [[specular relationtransference]]itself. " After his In "The direction of the [[schematreatment]] and the principles of the its [[power]]" (<i>[[Écrits: A Selection]]</i>) [[Lacan]] presented [[inverted bouquetcountertransference]] the as a [[mirror stageresistance]] becomes part of the [[topographyanalyst]] and raised the problem of the [[Imaginaryanalyst]]'s [[desire]]. As to Here, [[subjective]] disparity becomes the rule establishing dissymmetry between the ''two protagonists vis-à-vis [[méconnaissancedesire]]'' that characterizes : what the [[egopatient]], it is associated with ''will discover through the disappointment of [[Verneinungtransference]]'' (''[[dénégationlove]]''): "...everyday Because in the [[speechcure]] runs against failure one learns to talk instead of making [[recognitionlove]], ''in the end [[méconnaissancedesire]]'', which has been purified, is but the empty [[place]] where the source of ''[[Verneinungbarred]] [[subject]] accesses [[desire]]''." He closes We should note that [[training analysis]] does not put the [[seminaranalyst]] pondering on beyond [[passion]]; to believe that it does would mean that all passions stem from the [[roleunconscious]] of , a [[notion]] that [[Lacan]] rejects. The better analysed the [[analyst]]: "...if is, the subject commits himself more likely he is to searching after be in [[truthlove]] as suchwith, or be quite repulsed by, it is because he places himself the [[analysand]]. In [[training]]-analysis there will be a mutation in the dimension [[economy]] of ignorance[[desire]] in the analyst-to-be: desire will be restructured, what so that it will be stronger than passions. [[Lacan]] calls it the [[analystdesire]]s call readiness proper to the [[transferenceanalyst]].  In <i>The [[Symposium]]</i> the [[analyst]]'s ignorance position is also worth [[identified]] with Socrates', while Alcibiades occupies the position of considerationthe [[analysand]], who after Socrates will discover himself [[desiring]]. He doesn't have to guide the "To isolate oneself with [[subjectanother]] so as to teach him what he is [[knowledgelacking]]and, but on to by the paths by which access to this [[knowledgenature]] is gained. of [[Psychoanalysistransference]] , he will learn what he is a lacking insofar as he [[dialecticloves]]s, an : I am not here for his [[artGood]] of conversation, but for him to love me, and for me to disappoint him."

In a spoken intervention (Appendix), Alcibiades desires because he presumes Socrates is in possession of the <i>[[agalma]]</i> - the [[phallus]] as desirable. But Socrates refuses the position of [[love]]d [[object]] to assert himself as desiring. For [[Lacan]] [[Jean Hyppolitedesire]] comments on never occurs between two [[Freudsubject]]'s ''but between a [[Verneinungsubject]]'' and suggests its translation as ''an overvalorized [[being]] who has fallen to the [[dénégationstate]]'' instead of ''an [[négationobject]]''. The question here deals only way to discover the other as subject is "to recognize that he speaks an articulated [[language]] and responds to ours with how his own combinations; the other cannot fit into our calculations as someone who coheres like us." Socrates, by shying away from Alcibiades' declaration, by refusing to mask his [[lack]] with a [[fetish]], and by showing him [[returnAgathon]] of as the [[represstrue]]ed operates. According to object of his [[Freudlove]] , shows the [[repressanalyst]]ed how to behave: such is intellectually accepted by the other aspect of "subjective disparity" taking place in [[subjectanalysis]], since it . There is named, no rapport between what the one possesses and at what the same time is negated because other [[lack]]s. The [[phallus]], from being <i>[[objet a]]</i>, the [[subjectimaginary]] [[object]] refuses to recognize it , emerges as histhe [[signifier]] of [[signifier]]s, refuses to recognize him in itas "the only [[signifier]] that deserves the [[role]] of [[symbol]]. ''It designates the [[real]] [[presence]] that permits [[identification]], the origin of the [[Ideal]]-of-the-[[Ego]] on the side of the [[DénégationOther]]'' includes an assertion whose status ." There is difficult to define. a [[woman]] in <i>The frontier between Symposium</i>, Diotima, who speaks in the [[form]] of [[neurosismyth]] and . In the fable where [[psychosisfemale]] lack is drawn hereconfronted with [[male]] resources, between the [[feminine]] first has an [[active]] role before the desirable [[masculine]]. The [[reversal]] occurs because in love one only gives what one does not have: the [[repressionmasculine]], ''by shying away from the [[Verdrägungdemand]]'', and is revealed as a [[repudiationsubject]], ''of [[Verwerfungdesire]]''. Later, a term that [[Lacan]] will replace by would make Socrates the [[withdrawalmodel]], and finally by "of [[foreclosurehysteric]]" (''al [[forclusiondiscourse]]''), but also of [[analytic discourse]] because he attains the former being related to [[neurosisknowledge]], the latter to episteme, of [[psychosislove]].

When answering Hyppolite Having managed to provoke "a mutation in La Psychanalyse that same year, the economy of his [[Lacandesire]] establishes two poles of ," the [[analytic experienceanalyst]]: has access both to the [[imaginaryunconscious]] and to the experience of the [[egounconscious]] and because, like Socrates, he has confronted the [[symbolicdesire]] for [[speechdeath]]and achieved the "between-two-deaths" - <i>entre-deux-morts</i>. Having placed the [[Lacansignifier]] gives precedence to in the [[Symbolic]] over position of the absolute, he has abolished "[[Imaginaryfear]]and trembling. " The "One puts one's [[subjectdesire]] who must come aside so as to be preserve what is "the most precious, the [[subject of the unconsciousphallus]]" and ", the [[unconscious is the discourse symbol]] of the Other[[desire]]." In [[analysisDesire]], he says, "the subject first talks about himself without talking to you, then he talks to you without talking about himself. When he is able to talk to you about himself, the analysis is overonly its empty place."

<==English==An English [[translation]] of [[Seminar]] VIII, made from unpublished French transcripts, was made by a [[reading]] group associated with [http://www.lacaninireland.com ''Jacques Lacan in Ireland''] and arranged in a presentable form by Tony Hughes.* Download: https://mega.nz/#!zbJiHQxZ!_LLpZHQW96_YAWvZptA49sj7xUFFP5MV4oJY4FPT5hc* Download : http://www.lacaninireland.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/THE-SEMINAR-OF-JACQUES-LACAN-<b>Le séminaire, Livre VIII: Le transfert (dans sa disparité subjective)-Draft-21.pdf </b><brpdf width="500" height="500">FrenchFile: (texte établi par JacquesTHE-SEMINAR-OF-JACQUES-LACAN-Alain Miller), Paris: Seuil, 1991VIII.pdf<br/pdf>English: unpublished

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--><!--<b>Le séminaire, Livre VIII: Le transfert (dans sa disparité subjective).</b><br>[[French]]: (texte établi par Jacques-[[Alain]] [[Miller]]), [[Paris]]: Seuil, 1991.<br>[[English]]: unpublished {| style="width:100%; border:1px solid #aaa;text-align:left; line-height:2.0em; padding-left:10px;"|width="100%"| [[Jacques Lacan|Lacan, Jacques]]. [[Seminar I|The Seminar of Jacques Lacan: Book II : The Ego in Freud's Theory and in the Technique of Psychoanalysis 1954-1955 (Seminar of Jacques Lacan)]]. Ed. [[Jacques-Alain Miller]]. Trans. [[Sylvana Tomaselli]]. New York: W. W. Norton & Company, 1991. Paperback, Language: English, ISBN: 0393307093. <small><small>Buy it at [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393307093/nosubject-20/ Amazon.com], [http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393307093/nosub07-20/ Amazon.ca], [http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393307093/nosub-21/ Amazon.de], [http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393307093/nosubjencyofl-21/ Amazon.co.uk] or [http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393307093/nosub04-21/ Amazon.fr].</small></small>|}<BR>{| style="width:100%; border:1px solid #aaa;text-align:left; line-height:2.0em; padding-left:10px;"|width="100%"| [[Jacques Lacan|Lacan, Jacques]]. [[Seminar I|Le séminaire, Livre II: Le moi dans la théorie de Freud et dans la technique de la psychanalyse]]. Ed. [[Jacques-Alain Miller]]. Paris: Seuil, 1977. 374 pages, Language: French, ISBN: 2020047276. <small><!small>Buy it at [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/2020047276/nosubject-20/ Amazon.com], [http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/2020047276/nosub07- Start of right20/ Amazon.ca], [http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/2020047276/nosub-column 21/ Amazon.de], [http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/2020047276/nosubjencyofl-21/ Amazon.co.uk] or [http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/2020047276/nosub04-21/ Amazon.fr].</small></small>