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Yet,in relation to ''[[jouissance]]'', as well as being the object of [[language]], ''[[das Ding]]'' is the [[object of desire]]. It is the [[lost object]] which must be continually looked for, the unforgettable [[Other, the]] [[prohibition|forbidden]] [[object]] of [[incest]]uous [[desire]], the [[mother]]. The [[Thing]] appears to the subject as the Supreme Good, but if the [[subject]] [[transgression|trangresses]] the [[pleasure principle]] and attains it, it is experienced as suffering or/and [[evil]] because the [[subject]] "cannot stand the extreme good that ''[[das Ding]]'' may bring on him." It would seem then fortunately that the [[Thing]] is usually inaccessible.
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==English translation==
An [[English]] [[translation]] of [[Seminar XXI]], made from unpublished [[French]] transcripts, was made by a [[reading]] group associated with Cormac Gallagher and [http://www.lacaninireland.com ''Jacques Lacan in Ireland''], and arranged in a presentable [[form]] by Tony Hughes.
* Download:
** [http://www.lacaninireland.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/12-Crucial-problems-for-psychoanalysis.pdf Part 1] [https://mega.nz/#!2ew3xIIL!qSR9fLpbYOsr5c5kZhHJgFth2jzttq9kYt_InPDuZs0 Mirror]
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==English Audio ==
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