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 [[Image:Sem8Lacan_Seminar_VIII.jpg|350pxborder|400px|right]] In <i>[[La relation d'objet]]</i> [[Lacan]] provided a way of [[understanding]] the paradoxical function of [[transference]] in the [[analytic]]al [[cure]]. In its [[symbolic]] aspect ([[repetition]]) it helps the [[cure]] [[progress]] by revealing the [[signifier]]s of the [[subject]]'s [[history]]. He argues that in its [[imaginary]] aspect ([[love]] and [[hate]]) it [[acts]] as a [[resistance]]. He uses [[Plato]]'s <i>[[The Symposium]]</i> to illustrate the rapport between analysand and analyst: [[Alcibiades]] compares [[Socrates]] to a box enclosing a precious [[object]], <i>[[agalma]]</i>. Just as Alcibiades attributes a hidden treasure to Socrates, so too the [[patient]] sees his [[object]] of [[desire]] in the [[analyst]]. [[Lacan]] articulates the <i>[[objet a]]</i> with <i>[[agalma]]</i>, the [[object of desire]] we seek in the [[other]]. Before, the emphasis was placed on repetition, now it is placed on [[transference]] [[love]], <i>[[amour]] de [[transfert]]</i>: both are inseparable, but the perspective changes. To insist on [[repetition]] means to refuse to see in the analytic [[situation]] an [[intersubjective]] rapport to be dealt with here and now. What [[speech]] constructed in the [[past]] can be deconstructed in the [[cure]] by [[speech]]: the [[cure]] is "pure [[symbolic]] [[experience]]." On the [[individual]] level, it allows for "the reshaping of the [[imaginary]]," on the theorethical level for an intersubjective [[logic]] to be constructed. Thus, [[analysis]] is described as a [[particular]] experience of [[desire]], on the side of [[sexuality]]. [[Speech]] has an effect only after [[transference]]. For [[Lacan]] "it is from the [[position]] that [[transference]] bestows the [[analyst]] with that he intervenes in [[transference]] itself," and "[[transference]] is [[interpreted]] on the basis of and with the aid of [[transference]] itself." In "The direction of the [[treatment]] and the principles of its [[power]]" (<i>[[Écrits: A Selection]]</i>) [[Lacan]] presented [[countertransference]] as a [[resistance]] of the [[analyst]] and raised the problem of the [[analyst]]'s [[desire]]. Here, [[subjective]] disparity becomes the rule establishing dissymmetry between the two protagonists vis-à-vis [[desire]]: what the [[patient]] will discover through the disappointment of [[transference]] [[love]]. Because in the [[cure]] one learns to talk instead of making [[love]], in the end [[desire]], which has been purified, is but the empty [[place]] where the [[barred]] [[subject]] accesses [[desire]]. We should note that [[training analysis]] does not put the [[analyst]] beyond [[passion]]; to believe that it does would mean that all passions stem from the [[unconscious]], a [[notion]] that [[Lacan]] rejects. The better analysed the [[analyst]] is, the more likely he is to be in [[love]] with, or be quite repulsed by, the [[analysand]]. In [[training]]-analysis there will be a mutation in the [[economy]] of [[desire]] in the analyst-to-be: desire will be restructured, so that it will be stronger than passions. [[Lacan]] calls it the [[desire]] proper to the [[analyst]]. In <i>The [[Symposium]]</i> the [[analyst]]'s position is [[identified]] with Socrates', while Alcibiades occupies the position of the [[analysand]], who after Socrates will discover himself [[desiring]]. "To isolate oneself with [[another]] so as to teach him what he is [[lacking]] and, by the [[nature]] of [[transference]], he will learn what he is lacking insofar as he [[loves]]: I am not here for his [[Good]], but for him to love me, and for me to disappoint him." Alcibiades desires because he presumes Socrates is in possession of the <i>[[agalma]]</i> - the [[phallus]] as desirable. But Socrates refuses the position of [[love]]d [[object]] to assert himself as desiring. For [[Lacan]] [[desire]] never occurs between two [[subject]]s but between a [[subject]] and an overvalorized [[being]] who has fallen to the [[state]] of an [[object]]. The only way to discover the other as subject is "to recognize that he speaks an articulated [[language]] and responds to ours with his own combinations; the other cannot fit into our calculations as someone who coheres like us." Socrates, by shying away from Alcibiades' declaration, by refusing to mask his [[lack]] with a [[fetish]], and by showing him [[Agathon]] as the [[true]] object of his [[love]], shows the [[analyst]] how to behave: such is the other aspect of "subjective disparity" taking place in [[analysis]]. There is no rapport between what the one possesses and what the other [[lack]]s. The [[phallus]], from being <i>[[objet a]]</i>, the [[imaginary]] [[object]], emerges as the [[signifier]] of [[signifier]]s, as "the only [[signifier]] that deserves the [[role]] of [[symbol]]. It designates the [[real]] [[presence]] that permits [[identification]], the origin of the [[Ideal]]-of-the-[[Ego]] on the side of the [[Other]]." There is a [[woman]] in <i>The Symposium</i>, Diotima, who speaks in the [[form]] of [[myth]]. In the fable where [[female]] lack is confronted with [[male]] resources, the [[feminine]] first has an [[active]] role before the desirable [[masculine]]. The [[reversal]] occurs because in love one only gives what one does not have: the [[masculine]], by shying away from the [[demand]], is revealed as a [[subject]] of [[desire]]. Later, [[Lacan]] would make Socrates the [[model]] of [[hysteric]]al [[discourse]], but also of [[analytic discourse]] because he attains the [[knowledge]], the episteme, of [[love]]. Having managed to provoke "a mutation in the economy of his [[desire]]," the [[analyst]] has access both to the [[unconscious]] and to the experience of the [[unconscious]] because, like Socrates, he has confronted the [[desire]] for [[death]] and achieved the "between-two-deaths" - <i>entre-deux-morts</i>. Having placed the [[signifier]] in the position of the absolute, he has abolished "[[fear]] and trembling." "One puts one's [[desire]] aside so as to preserve what is the most precious, the [[phallus]], the [[symbol]] of [[desire]]." [[Desire]] is only its empty place.  ==English==An English [[translation]] of [[Seminar]] VIII, made from unpublished French transcripts, was made by a [[reading]] group associated with [http://www.lacaninireland.com ''Jacques Lacan in Ireland''] and arranged in a presentable form by Tony Hughes.* Download: https://mega.nz/#!zbJiHQxZ!_LLpZHQW96_YAWvZptA49sj7xUFFP5MV4oJY4FPT5hc* Download : http://www.lacaninireland.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/THE-SEMINAR-OF-JACQUES-LACAN-VIII-Draft-21.pdf <pdf width="500" height="500">File:THE-SEMINAR-OF-JACQUES-LACAN-VIII.pdf</pdf> {| class="wikitable sortable" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5"|- style="height: 20px"| [[Author]](s)| Title| Publisher| Year| Pages| Language| Size| Extension| Download|- style="height: 20px"| [[Jacques Lacan]]| <small>Seminar of [[Jacques lacan|Jacques Lacan]]</small><BR>Transference [8]<br>''<small>978-0-7456-6039-4</small>''| Polity Press| 2015| 460| English| 20 Mb| pdf|[http://library1.org/_ads/58C305EC3C76318540326AD9CD7C264B 1], [http://libgen.io/get.php?md5=58C305EC3C76318540326AD9CD7C264B 2], [http://b-ok.cc/md5/58C305EC3C76318540326AD9CD7C264B 3], [http://libgen.me/item/detail/id/2376017 4], [http://bookfi.net/md5/58C305EC3C76318540326AD9CD7C264B 5]|} ==Related Downloads=={| class="wikitable sortable" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style:"width:100%"|- style="height: 20px"| Author(s)| Title| Publisher| Year| Pages| Language| Size| Extension| Download|- style="height: 20px"| [[Bruce Fink]]| Lacan on Love: An Exploration of Lacan’s Seminar VIII, Transference <small>[ebook ed.]</small><BR>''<small>1509500537, 9781509500536</small>''| Polity Press| 2015| 288<BR>[247]| English| 1 Mb| pdf|[http://library1.org/_ads/58EAA72329FCC9D0127ACFD1CD72F543 1], [http://libgen.io/get.php?md5=58EAA72329FCC9D0127ACFD1CD72F543 2], [http://b-ok.cc/md5/58EAA72329FCC9D0127ACFD1CD72F543 3], [http://libgen.me/item/detail/id/2314496 4], [http://bookfi.net/md5/58EAA72329FCC9D0127ACFD1CD72F543 5]|- style="height: 20px"| Bruce Fink| Lacan on Love: An Exploration of Lacan’s Seminar VIII, Transference <small>[ebook ed.]</small><BR>''<small>1509500537, 9781509500536</small>''| Polity Press| 2015| 288<BR>[247]| English| 464 Kb| epub|[http://library1.org/_ads/34F810673148B44308C634D1755D96E2 1], [http://libgen.io/get.php?md5=34F810673148B44308C634D1755D96E2 2], [http://b-ok.cc/md5/34F810673148B44308C634D1755D96E2 3], [http://libgen.me/item/detail/id/2314494 4], [http://bookfi.net/md5/34F810673148B44308C634D1755D96E2 5]|} ===Audio===<!-- <div style="float: right"> -->{{#widget:Iframe|url=https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/playlists/39079464&color=%23ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&show_teaser=true|width=600|height=450|border=0}}<!-- </div>--> ==French==<pdf width="500" height="500">File:Seminaire_08.pdf</pdf>  <!--==Original French transcripts of Seminars==* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1957.11.06.pdf 06 novembre 1957]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1957.11.13.pdf 13 novembre 1957]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1957.11.20.pdf 20 novembre 1957]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1957.11.27.pdf 27 novembre 1957]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1957.12.04.pdf 04 décembre 1957]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1957.12.11.pdf 11 décembre 1957]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1957.12.18.pdf 18 décembre 1957]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.01.08.pdf 08 janvier 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.01.15.pdf 15 janvier 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.01.22.pdf 22 janvier 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.01.29.pdf 29 janvier 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.02.05.pdf 05 février 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.02.12.pdf 12 février 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.03.05.pdf 05 mars 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.03.12.pdf 12 mars 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.03.19.pdf 19 mars 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.03.26.pdf 26 mars 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.04.09.pdf 09 avril 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.04.16.pdf 16 avril 1958]]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.04.23.pdf 23 avril 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.04.30.pdf 30 avril 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.05.07.pdf 07 mai 1958]]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.05.14.pdf 14 mai 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.05.21.pdf 21 mai 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.06.04.pdf 04 juin 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.06.11.pdf 11 juin 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.06.18.pdf 18 juin 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.06.25.pdf 25 juin 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.07.02.pdf 02 juillet 1958]  {| class="wikitable" width="200px" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff" style="line-height:2.0em; 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border:1px solid #aaa;text-align:left; line-height:2.0em; padding-left:10px;"|width="100%"| [[Jacques Lacan|Lacan, Jacques]]. [[Seminar I|The Seminar of Jacques Lacan: Book II : The Ego in Freud's Theory and in the Technique of Psychoanalysis 1954-1955 (Seminar of Jacques Lacan)]]. Ed. [[Jacques-Alain Miller]]. Trans. [[Sylvana Tomaselli]]. New York: W. W. Norton & Company, 1991. Paperback, Language: English, ISBN: 0393307093. <small><small>Buy it at [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393307093/nosubject-20/ Amazon.com], [http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393307093/nosub07-20/ Amazon.ca], [http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393307093/nosub-21/ Amazon.de], [http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393307093/nosubjencyofl-21/ Amazon.co.uk] or [http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393307093/nosub04-21/ Amazon.fr].</small></small>|}<BR>{| style="width:100%; border:1px solid #aaa;text-align:left; line-height:2.0em; padding-left:10px;"|width="100%"| [[Jacques Lacan|Lacan, Jacques]]. [[Seminar I|Le séminaire, Livre II: Le moi dans la théorie de Freud et dans la technique de la psychanalyse]]. Ed. [[Jacques-Alain Miller]]. Paris: Seuil, 1977. 374 pages, Language: French, ISBN: 2020047276. <small><small>Buy it at [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/2020047276/nosubject-20/ Amazon.com], [http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/2020047276/nosub07-20/ Amazon.ca], [http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/2020047276/nosub-21/ Amazon.de], [http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/2020047276/nosubjencyofl-21/ Amazon.co.uk] or [http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/2020047276/nosub04-21/ Amazon.fr].</small></small>|}-->__NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__ [[Category:Seminars]] [[Category:Jacques Lacan]]
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