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The first [[seminar]], open to the public, takes place at [[Sainte-Anne Hospital]] just after the creation of the [[S.F.P]] ([[Société Française de Psychanalyse]])[[Lacan]] cuts in the study of [[Freud]] by dint of his theory on the [[imaginary]], the [[symbolic]] and the [[real]].  The focal point of the discussion is the direction of the [[cure]].  Participants are allowed to make presentations, comments and objections.  Through the case histories of [[Freud]], [[Klein]], Kris and [[Balint]], the debate elucidates on the convergence of [[psychoanalysis]], [[philosophy]], [[theology]], [[linguistics]] and [[game theory]]. In keeping with this heterogeneous approach, [[Lacan]] will further appeal to the [[science]] of [[optics]] to systematize his analyses of the [[specular relation]].  After his [[schema]] of the [[inverted bouquet]] the [[mirror stage]] becomes part of the [[topography]] of the [[Imaginary]]. As to the ''[[méconnaissance]]'' that characterizes the [[ego]], it is associated with ''[[Verneinung]]'' (''[[dénégation]]''): "...everyday [[speech]] runs against failure of [[recognition]], ''[[méconnaissance]]'', which is the source of ''[[Verneinung]]''." He closes the [[seminar]] pondering on the [[role]] of the [[analyst]]: "...if the subject commits himself to searching after [[truth]] as such, it is because he places himself in the dimension of ignorance, what [[analyst]]s call readiness to the [[transference]]. The [[analyst]]'s ignorance is also worth of considerationHe doesn't have to guide the [[subject]] to [[knowledge]], but on to the paths by which access to this [[knowledge]] is gained.  [[Psychoanalysis]] is a [[dialectic]]s, an [[art]] of conversation."
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In <i>[[La relation d'objet]]</i> [[Lacan]] provided a way of [[understanding]] the paradoxical function of [[transference]] in the [[analytic]]al [[cure]]. In its [[symbolic]] aspect ([[repetition]]) it helps the [[cure]] [[progress]] by revealing the [[signifier]]s of the [[subject]]'s [[history]].  He argues that in its [[imaginary]] aspect ([[love]] and [[hate]]) it [[acts]] as a [[resistance]].  He uses [[Plato]]'s <i>[[The Symposium]]</i> to illustrate the rapport between analysand and analyst: [[Alcibiades]] compares [[Socrates]] to a box enclosing a precious [[object]], <i>[[agalma]]</i>. Just as Alcibiades attributes a hidden treasure to Socrates, so too the [[patient]] sees his [[object]] of [[desire]] in the [[analyst]].  [[Lacan]] articulates the <i>[[objet a]]</i> with <i>[[agalma]]</i>, the [[object of desire]] we seek in the [[other]].
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Before, the emphasis was placed on repetition, now it is placed on [[transference]] [[love]], <i>[[amour]] de [[transfert]]</i>: both are inseparable, but the perspective changes.  To insist on [[repetition]] means to refuse to see in the analytic [[situation]] an [[intersubjective]] rapport to be dealt with here and now.  What [[speech]] constructed in the [[past]] can be deconstructed in the [[cure]] by [[speech]]: the [[cure]] is "pure [[symbolic]] [[experience]]."  On the [[individual]] level, it allows for "the reshaping of the [[imaginary]]," on the theorethical level for an intersubjective [[logic]] to be constructed.  Thus, [[analysis]] is described as a [[particular]] experience of [[desire]], on the side of [[sexuality]].  [[Speech]] has an effect only after [[transference]]. For [[Lacan]] "it is from the [[position]] that [[transference]] bestows the [[analyst]] with that he intervenes in [[transference]] itself," and "[[transference]] is [[interpreted]] on the basis of and with the aid of [[transference]] itself." In "The direction of the [[treatment]] and the principles of its [[power]]" (<i>[[Écrits: A Selection]]</i>) [[Lacan]] presented [[countertransference]] as a [[resistance]] of the [[analyst]] and raised the problem of the [[analyst]]'s [[desire]]. Here, [[subjective]] disparity becomes the rule establishing dissymmetry between the two protagonists vis-à-vis [[desire]]: what the [[patient]] will discover through the disappointment of [[transference]] [[love]]. Because in the [[cure]] one learns to talk instead of making [[love]], in the end [[desire]], which has been purified, is but the empty [[place]] where the [[barred]] [[subject]] accesses [[desire]].  We should note that [[training analysis]] does not put the [[analyst]] beyond [[passion]]; to believe that it does would mean that all passions stem from the [[unconscious]], a [[notion]] that [[Lacan]] rejects.  The better analysed the [[analyst]] is, the more likely he is to be in [[love]] with, or be quite repulsed by, the [[analysand]]. In [[training]]-analysis there will be a mutation in the [[economy]] of [[desire]] in the analyst-to-be: desire will be restructured, so that it will be stronger than passions. [[Lacan]] calls it the [[desire]] proper to the [[analyst]].
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In <i>The [[Symposium]]</i> the [[analyst]]'s position is [[identified]] with Socrates', while Alcibiades occupies the position of the [[analysand]], who after Socrates will discover himself [[desiring]]"To isolate oneself with [[another]] so as to teach him what he is [[lacking]] and, by the [[nature]] of [[transference]], he will learn what he is lacking insofar as he [[loves]]: I am not here for his [[Good]], but for him to love me, and for me to disappoint him."
  
In a spoken intervention (Appendix), [[Jean Hyppolite]] comments on [[Freud]]'s ''[[Verneinung]]'' and suggests its translation as ''[[dénégation]]'' instead of ''[[négation]]''.  The question here deals with how the [[return]] of the [[repress]]ed operates.  According to [[Freud]] the [[repress]]ed is intellectually accepted by the [[subject]], since it is named, and at the same time is negated because the [[subject]] refuses to recognize it as his, refuses to recognize him in it''[[Dénégation]]'' includes an assertion whose status is difficult to define. The frontier between [[neurosis]] and [[psychosis]] is drawn here, between [[repression]], ''[[Verdrägung]]'', and [[repudiation]], ''[[Verwerfung]]'', a term that [[Lacan]] will replace by [[withdrawal]], and finally by "[[foreclosure]]" (''[[forclusion]]''), the former being related to [[neurosis]], the latter to [[psychosis]].
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Alcibiades desires because he presumes Socrates is in possession of the <i>[[agalma]]</i> - the [[phallus]] as desirable.  But Socrates refuses the position of [[love]]d [[object]] to assert himself as desiring.  For [[Lacan]] [[desire]] never occurs between two [[subject]]s but between a [[subject]] and an overvalorized [[being]] who has fallen to the [[state]] of an [[object]].  The only way to discover the other as subject is "to recognize that he speaks an articulated [[language]] and responds to ours with his own combinations; the other cannot fit into our calculations as someone who coheres like us."  Socrates, by shying away from Alcibiades' declaration, by refusing to mask his [[lack]] with a [[fetish]], and by showing him [[Agathon]] as the [[true]] object of his [[love]], shows the [[analyst]] how to behave: such is the other aspect of "subjective disparity" taking place in [[analysis]].  There is no rapport between what the one possesses and what the other [[lack]]s. The [[phallus]], from being <i>[[objet a]]</i>, the [[imaginary]] [[object]], emerges as the [[signifier]] of [[signifier]]s, as "the only [[signifier]] that deserves the [[role]] of [[symbol]]It designates the [[real]] [[presence]] that permits [[identification]], the origin of the [[Ideal]]-of-the-[[Ego]] on the side of the [[Other]]."  There is a [[woman]] in <i>The Symposium</i>, Diotima, who speaks in the [[form]] of [[myth]].  In the fable where [[female]] lack is confronted with [[male]] resources, the [[feminine]] first has an [[active]] role before the desirable [[masculine]].  The [[reversal]] occurs because in love one only gives what one does not have: the [[masculine]], by shying away from the [[demand]], is revealed as a [[subject]] of [[desire]].  Later, [[Lacan]] would make Socrates the [[model]] of [[hysteric]]al [[discourse]], but also of [[analytic discourse]] because he attains the [[knowledge]], the episteme, of [[love]].
  
When answering Hyppolite in La Psychanalyse that same year, [[Lacan]] establishes two poles of [[analytic experience]]: the [[imaginary]] [[ego]] and the [[symbolic]] [[speech]].  [[Lacan]] gives precedence to the [[Symbolic]] over the [[Imaginary]].  The [[subject]] who must come to be is "the [[subject of the unconscious]]" and "the [[unconscious is the discourse of the Other]]."  In [[analysis]], he says, "the subject first talks about himself without talking to you, then he talks to you without talking about himself. When he is able to talk to you about himself, the analysis is over."
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Having managed to provoke "a mutation in the economy of his [[desire]]," the [[analyst]] has access both to the [[unconscious]] and to the experience of the [[unconscious]] because, like Socrates, he has confronted the [[desire]] for [[death]] and achieved the "between-two-deaths" - <i>entre-deux-morts</i>Having placed the [[signifier]] in the position of the absolute, he has abolished "[[fear]] and trembling." "One puts one's [[desire]] aside so as to preserve what is the most precious, the [[phallus]], the [[symbol]] of [[desire]]."  [[Desire]] is only its empty place.
  
To this reshaping of the [[Imaginary]] by the [[Symbolic]], he opposes the intersection of the [[Symbolic]] and the [[Real]] without mediation of the [[Imaginary]], which would be the characteristic of [[psychosis]].
 
  
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<b>Le séminaire, Livre VIII: Le transfert (dans sa disparité subjective).</b><br>
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An English [[translation]] of [[Seminar]] VIII, made from unpublished French transcripts, was made by a [[reading]] group associated with [http://www.lacaninireland.com ''Jacques Lacan in Ireland''] and arranged in a presentable form by Tony Hughes.
French: (texte établi par Jacques-Alain Miller), Paris: Seuil, 1991.<br>
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| [http://{{seminaires}}/seminaireI/17mars1954.doc link]
 
 
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| [http://{{seminaires}}/seminaireI/24mars1954.doc link]
 
 
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| [http://{{seminaires}}/seminaireI/1954.03.31.pdf link]
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| [http://{{seminaires}}/seminaireI/1954.04.07.pdf link]
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| [http://{{seminaires}}/seminaireI/7avril1954.doc link]
 
 
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| [http://{{seminaires}}/seminaireI/5mai1954.doc link]
 
 
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| [http://{{seminaires}}/seminaireI/1954.05.26.pdf link]
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| [http://{{seminaires}}/seminaireI/26mai1954.doc link]
 
 
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| [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.05.21.pdf link]
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| [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.06.11.pdf link]
| [http://{{seminaires}}/seminaireI/16juin1954.doc link]
 
 
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| [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.06.18.pdf link]
| [http://{{seminaires}}/seminaireI/23juin1954.doc link]
 
 
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| [http://{{seminaires}}/seminaireI/30juin1954.doc link]
 
 
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Latest revision as of 17:05, 27 December 2020

Seminar VII Seminar IX


1960 - 1961 Seminar VIII Le transfert (dans sa disparité subjective)
Transference
Lacan Seminar VIII.jpg

In La relation d'objet Lacan provided a way of understanding the paradoxical function of transference in the analytical cure. In its symbolic aspect (repetition) it helps the cure progress by revealing the signifiers of the subject's history. He argues that in its imaginary aspect (love and hate) it acts as a resistance. He uses Plato's The Symposium to illustrate the rapport between analysand and analyst: Alcibiades compares Socrates to a box enclosing a precious object, agalma. Just as Alcibiades attributes a hidden treasure to Socrates, so too the patient sees his object of desire in the analyst. Lacan articulates the objet a with agalma, the object of desire we seek in the other.

Before, the emphasis was placed on repetition, now it is placed on transference love, amour de transfert: both are inseparable, but the perspective changes. To insist on repetition means to refuse to see in the analytic situation an intersubjective rapport to be dealt with here and now. What speech constructed in the past can be deconstructed in the cure by speech: the cure is "pure symbolic experience." On the individual level, it allows for "the reshaping of the imaginary," on the theorethical level for an intersubjective logic to be constructed. Thus, analysis is described as a particular experience of desire, on the side of sexuality. Speech has an effect only after transference. For Lacan "it is from the position that transference bestows the analyst with that he intervenes in transference itself," and "transference is interpreted on the basis of and with the aid of transference itself." In "The direction of the treatment and the principles of its power" (Écrits: A Selection) Lacan presented countertransference as a resistance of the analyst and raised the problem of the analyst's desire. Here, subjective disparity becomes the rule establishing dissymmetry between the two protagonists vis-à-vis desire: what the patient will discover through the disappointment of transference love. Because in the cure one learns to talk instead of making love, in the end desire, which has been purified, is but the empty place where the barred subject accesses desire. We should note that training analysis does not put the analyst beyond passion; to believe that it does would mean that all passions stem from the unconscious, a notion that Lacan rejects. The better analysed the analyst is, the more likely he is to be in love with, or be quite repulsed by, the analysand. In training-analysis there will be a mutation in the economy of desire in the analyst-to-be: desire will be restructured, so that it will be stronger than passions. Lacan calls it the desire proper to the analyst.

In The Symposium the analyst's position is identified with Socrates', while Alcibiades occupies the position of the analysand, who after Socrates will discover himself desiring. "To isolate oneself with another so as to teach him what he is lacking and, by the nature of transference, he will learn what he is lacking insofar as he loves: I am not here for his Good, but for him to love me, and for me to disappoint him."

Alcibiades desires because he presumes Socrates is in possession of the agalma - the phallus as desirable. But Socrates refuses the position of loved object to assert himself as desiring. For Lacan desire never occurs between two subjects but between a subject and an overvalorized being who has fallen to the state of an object. The only way to discover the other as subject is "to recognize that he speaks an articulated language and responds to ours with his own combinations; the other cannot fit into our calculations as someone who coheres like us." Socrates, by shying away from Alcibiades' declaration, by refusing to mask his lack with a fetish, and by showing him Agathon as the true object of his love, shows the analyst how to behave: such is the other aspect of "subjective disparity" taking place in analysis. There is no rapport between what the one possesses and what the other lacks. The phallus, from being objet a, the imaginary object, emerges as the signifier of signifiers, as "the only signifier that deserves the role of symbol. It designates the real presence that permits identification, the origin of the Ideal-of-the-Ego on the side of the Other." There is a woman in The Symposium, Diotima, who speaks in the form of myth. In the fable where female lack is confronted with male resources, the feminine first has an active role before the desirable masculine. The reversal occurs because in love one only gives what one does not have: the masculine, by shying away from the demand, is revealed as a subject of desire. Later, Lacan would make Socrates the model of hysterical discourse, but also of analytic discourse because he attains the knowledge, the episteme, of love.

Having managed to provoke "a mutation in the economy of his desire," the analyst has access both to the unconscious and to the experience of the unconscious because, like Socrates, he has confronted the desire for death and achieved the "between-two-deaths" - entre-deux-morts. Having placed the signifier in the position of the absolute, he has abolished "fear and trembling." "One puts one's desire aside so as to preserve what is the most precious, the phallus, the symbol of desire." Desire is only its empty place.


English

An English translation of Seminar VIII, made from unpublished French transcripts, was made by a reading group associated with Jacques Lacan in Ireland and arranged in a presentable form by Tony Hughes.

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