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{| align="center" style="width:600px; border:1px solid #aaa;text-align:left; line-height:2.0em; padding-left:10px;"|-| style="width:100px;text-align:left; line-height:1.5em; padding-left:3px;"| 1960-1961 Le séminaire, Livre | style="width:100px;text-align:left; line-height:1.5em; padding-left:3px;"| [[Seminar VIII]]| style="width:300px;text-align:left; line-height:1.5em; padding-left: 3px;"| ''[[Seminar VIII|Le transfert (dans sa disparité subjective). French: (texte établi par Jacques-Alain Miller), Paris: Seuil, 1991. English: unpublished]]''<BR><big>[[Seminar VIII|Transference]]</big>|}
[[Image:Lacan_Seminar_VIII.jpg|border|400px|right]] In <i>[[La relation d'objet ]]</i> [[Lacan ]] provided a way of [[understanding ]] the paradoxical function of [[transference ]] in the analytical [[analytic]]al [[cure]]. In its [[symbolic ]] aspect ([[repetition]]) it helps the [[cure ]] [[progress ]] by revealing the signifiers [[signifier]]s of the [[subject]]'s [[history]]. He argues that in its [[imaginary ]] aspect ([[love ]] and [[hate]]) it [[acts ]] as a [[resistance]]. He uses [[Plato]]'s <i>[[The Symposium ]]</i> to illustrate the rapport between analysand and analyst: [[Alcibiades ]] compares [[Socrates ]] to a box enclosing a precious [[object]], <i>[[agalma]]</i>. Just as Alcibiades attributes a hidden treasure to Socrates, so too the [[patient ]] sees his [[object ]] of [[desire ]] in the [[analyst]]. [[Lacan ]] articulates the <i>[[objet a ]]</i> with <i>[[agalma]]</i>, the [[object of desire ]] we seek in the [[other]].  Before, the emphasis was placed on repetition, now it is placed on [[transference ]] [[love]], <i>[[amour ]] de [[transfert]]</i>: both are inseparable, but the perspective changes. To insist on [[repetition ]] means to refuse to see in the analytic [[situation ]] an [[intersubjective ]] rapport to be dealt with here and now. What [[speech ]] constructed in the [[past ]] can be deconstructed in the [[cure ]] by [[speech]]: the [[cure ]] is "pure [[symbolic ]] [[experience]]." On the [[individual ]] level, it allows for "the reshaping of the [[imaginary]]," on the theorethical level for an intersubjective [[logic ]] to be constructed. Thus, [[analysis ]] is described as a [[particular ]] experience of [[desire]], on the side of [[sexuality]]. [[Speech ]] has an effect only after [[transference]]. For [[Lacan ]] "it is from the [[position ]] that [[transference ]] bestows the [[analyst ]] with that he intervenes in [[transference ]] itself," and "[[transference ]] is [[interpreted ]] on the basis of and with the aid of [[transference ]] itself." In "The direction of the [[treatment ]] and the principles of its [[power]]" (<i>[[Écrits: A Selection]]</i>) [[Lacan ]] presented [[countertransference ]] as a [[resistance ]] of the [[analyst ]] and raised the problem of the [[analyst]]'s [[desire]]. Here, [[subjective ]] disparity becomes the rule establishing dissymmetry between the two protagonists vis-à-vis [[desire]]: what the [[patient ]] will discover through the disappointment of [[transference ]] [[love]]. Because in the [[cure ]] one learns to talk instead of making [[love]], in the end [[desire]], which has been purified, is but the empty [[place ]] where the [[barred ]] [[subject ]] accesses [[desire]]. We should note that [[training analysis ]] does not put the [[analyst ]] beyond [[passion]]; to believe that it does would mean that all passions stem from the [[unconscious]], a [[notion ]] that [[Lacan ]] rejects. The better analysed the [[analyst ]] is, the more likely he is to be in [[love ]] with, or be quite repulsed by, the [[analysand]]. In [[training]]-analysis there will be a mutation in the [[economy ]] of [[desire ]] in the analyst-to-be: desire will be restructured, so that it will be stronger than passions. [[Lacan ]] calls it the [[desire ]] proper to the [[analyst]].  In <i>The [[Symposium ]]</i> the [[analyst]]'s position is [[identified ]] with Socrates', while Alcibiades occupies the position of the [[analysand]], who after Socrates will discover himself [[desiring]]. "To isolate oneself with [[another ]] so as to teach him what he is [[lacking ]] and, by the [[nature ]] of [[transference]], he will learn what he is lacking insofar as he [[loves]]: I am not here for his [[Good]], but for him to love me, and for me to disappoint him."  Alcibiades desires because he presumes Socrates is in possession of the <i>[[agalma ]]</i> - the [[phallus ]] as desirable. But Socrates refuses the position of loved [[love]]d [[object ]] to assert himself as desiring. For [[Lacan ]] [[desire ]] never occurs between two subjects [[subject]]s but between a [[subject ]] and an overvalorized [[being ]] who has fallen to the [[state ]] of an [[object]]. The only way to discover the other as subject is "to recognize that he speaks an articulated [[language ]] and responds to ours with his own combinations; the other cannot fit into our calculations as someone who coheres like us." Socrates, by shying away from Alcibiades' declaration, by refusing to mask his [[lack ]] with a [[fetish]], and by showing him [[Agathon ]] as the [[true ]] object of his [[love]], shows the [[analyst ]] how to behave: such is the other aspect of "subjective disparity" taking place in [[analysis]]. There is no rapport between what the one possesses and what the other lacks[[lack]]s. The [[phallus]], from being <i>[[objet a]]</i>, the [[imaginary ]] [[object]], emerges as the [[signifier ]] of signifiers[[signifier]]s, as "the only [[signifier ]] that deserves the [[role ]] of [[symbol]]. It designates the [[real ]] [[presence ]] that permits [[identification]], the origin of the [[Ideal]]-of-the-[[Ego ]] on the side of the [[Other]]." There is a [[woman ]] in <i>The Symposium</i>, Diotima, who speaks in the [[form ]] of [[myth]]. In the fable where [[female ]] lack is confronted with [[male ]] resources, the [[feminine ]] first has an [[active ]] role before the desirable [[masculine]]. The [[reversal ]] occurs because in love one only gives what one does not have: the [[masculine]], by shying away from the [[demand]], is revealed as a [[subject ]] of [[desire]]. Later, [[Lacan ]] would make Socrates the [[model ]] of hysterical [[hysteric]]al [[discourse]], but also of [[analytic discourse ]] because he attains the [[knowledge]], the episteme, of [[love]].  Having managed to provoke "a mutation in the economy of his [[desire]]," the [[analyst ]] has access both to the [[unconscious ]] and to the experience of the [[unconscious ]] because, like Socrates, he has confronted the [[desire ]] for [[death ]] and achieved the "between-two-deaths" - <i>entre-deux-morts</i>. Having placed the [[signifier ]] in the position of the absolute, he has abolished "[[fear ]] and trembling." "One puts one's [[desire ]] aside so as to preserve what is the most precious, the [[phallus]], the [[symbol ]] of [[desire]]." [[Desire ]] is only its empty place.  ==English==An English [[translation]] of [[Seminar]] VIII, made from unpublished French transcripts, was made by a [[reading]] group associated with [http://www.lacaninireland.com ''Jacques Lacan in Ireland''] and arranged in a presentable form by Tony Hughes.* Download: https://mega.nz/#!zbJiHQxZ!_LLpZHQW96_YAWvZptA49sj7xUFFP5MV4oJY4FPT5hc* Download : http://www.lacaninireland.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/THE-SEMINAR-OF-JACQUES-LACAN-VIII-Draft-21.pdf <pdf width="500" height="500">File:THE-SEMINAR-OF-JACQUES-LACAN-VIII.pdf</pdf> {| class="wikitable sortable" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5"|- style="height: 20px"| [[Author]](s)| Title| Publisher| Year| Pages| Language| Size| Extension| Download|- style="height: 20px"| [[Jacques Lacan]]| <small>Seminar of [[Jacques lacan|Jacques Lacan]]</small><BR>Transference [8]<br>''<small>978-0-7456-6039-4</small>''| Polity Press| 2015| 460| English| 20 Mb| pdf|[http://library1.org/_ads/58C305EC3C76318540326AD9CD7C264B 1], [http://libgen.io/get.php?md5=58C305EC3C76318540326AD9CD7C264B 2], [http://b-ok.cc/md5/58C305EC3C76318540326AD9CD7C264B 3], [http://libgen.me/item/detail/id/2376017 4], [http://bookfi.net/md5/58C305EC3C76318540326AD9CD7C264B 5]|} ==Related Downloads=={| class="wikitable sortable" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style:"width:100%"|- style="height: 20px"| Author(s)| Title| Publisher| Year| Pages| Language| Size| Extension| Download|- style="height: 20px"| [[Bruce Fink]]| Lacan on Love: An Exploration of Lacan’s Seminar VIII, Transference <small>[ebook ed.]</small><BR>''<small>1509500537, 9781509500536</small>''| Polity Press| 2015| 288<BR>[247]| English| 1 Mb| pdf|[http://library1.org/_ads/58EAA72329FCC9D0127ACFD1CD72F543 1], [http://libgen.io/get.php?md5=58EAA72329FCC9D0127ACFD1CD72F543 2], [http://b-ok.cc/md5/58EAA72329FCC9D0127ACFD1CD72F543 3], [http://libgen.me/item/detail/id/2314496 4], [http://bookfi.net/md5/58EAA72329FCC9D0127ACFD1CD72F543 5]|- style="height: 20px"| Bruce Fink| Lacan on Love: An Exploration of Lacan’s Seminar VIII, Transference <small>[ebook ed.]</small><BR>''<small>1509500537, 9781509500536</small>''| Polity Press| 2015| 288<BR>[247]| English| 464 Kb| epub|[http://library1.org/_ads/34F810673148B44308C634D1755D96E2 1], [http://libgen.io/get.php?md5=34F810673148B44308C634D1755D96E2 2], [http://b-ok.cc/md5/34F810673148B44308C634D1755D96E2 3], [http://libgen.me/item/detail/id/2314494 4], [http://bookfi.net/md5/34F810673148B44308C634D1755D96E2 5]|} ===Audio===<!-- <div style="float: right"> -->{{#widget:Iframe|url=https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/playlists/39079464&color=%23ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&show_teaser=true|width=600|height=450|border=0}}<!-- </div>--> ==French==<pdf width="500" height="500">File:Seminaire_08.pdf</pdf>  <!--==Original French transcripts of Seminars==* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1957.11.06.pdf 06 novembre 1957]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1957.11.13.pdf 13 novembre 1957]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1957.11.20.pdf 20 novembre 1957]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1957.11.27.pdf 27 novembre 1957]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1957.12.04.pdf 04 décembre 1957]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1957.12.11.pdf 11 décembre 1957]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1957.12.18.pdf 18 décembre 1957]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.01.08.pdf 08 janvier 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.01.15.pdf 15 janvier 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.01.22.pdf 22 janvier 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.01.29.pdf 29 janvier 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.02.05.pdf 05 février 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.02.12.pdf 12 février 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.03.05.pdf 05 mars 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.03.12.pdf 12 mars 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.03.19.pdf 19 mars 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.03.26.pdf 26 mars 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.04.09.pdf 09 avril 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.04.16.pdf 16 avril 1958]]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.04.23.pdf 23 avril 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.04.30.pdf 30 avril 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.05.07.pdf 07 mai 1958]]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.05.14.pdf 14 mai 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.05.21.pdf 21 mai 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.06.04.pdf 04 juin 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.06.11.pdf 11 juin 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.06.18.pdf 18 juin 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.06.25.pdf 25 juin 1958]* [http://{{archive}}/seminaireV/1958.07.02.pdf 02 juillet 1958]  {| class="wikitable" width="200px" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff" style="line-height:2.0em; 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border:1px solid #aaa;text-align:left; line-height:2.0em; padding-left:10px;"|width="100%"| [[Jacques Lacan|Lacan, Jacques]]. [[Seminar I|The Seminar of Jacques Lacan: Book II : The Ego in Freud's Theory and in the Technique of Psychoanalysis 1954-1955 (Seminar of Jacques Lacan)]]. Ed. [[Jacques-Alain Miller]]. Trans. [[Sylvana Tomaselli]]. New York: W. W. Norton & Company, 1991. Paperback, Language: English, ISBN: 0393307093. <small><small>Buy it at [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393307093/nosubject-20/ Amazon.com], [http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393307093/nosub07-20/ Amazon.ca], [http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393307093/nosub-21/ Amazon.de], [http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393307093/nosubjencyofl-21/ Amazon.co.uk] or [http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393307093/nosub04-21/ Amazon.fr].</small></small>|}<BR>{| style="width:100%; border:1px solid #aaa;text-align:left; line-height:2.0em; padding-left:10px;"|width="100%"| [[Jacques Lacan|Lacan, Jacques]]. [[Seminar I|Le séminaire, Livre II: Le moi dans la théorie de Freud et dans la technique de la psychanalyse]]. Ed. [[Jacques-Alain Miller]]. Paris: Seuil, 1977. 374 pages, Language: French, ISBN: 2020047276. <small><small>Buy it at [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/2020047276/nosubject-20/ Amazon.com], [http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/2020047276/nosub07-20/ Amazon.ca], [http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/2020047276/nosub-21/ Amazon.de], [http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/2020047276/nosubjencyofl-21/ Amazon.co.uk] or [http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/2020047276/nosub04-21/ Amazon.fr].</small></small>|}-->__NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__ [[Category:Seminars]] [[Category:Jacques Lacan]]
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