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{| align="center" style="width:600px; border:1px solid #aaa;text-align:left; line-height:2.0em; padding-left:10px;"|-| style="width:100px;text-align:left; line-height:1.5em; padding-left:3px;"| 1960-1961 ~~Le séminaire, Livre~~ | style="width:100px;text-align:left; line-height:1.5em; padding-left:3px;"| [[Seminar VIII]]| style="width:300px;text-align:left; line-height:1.5em; padding-left: 3px;"| ''[[Seminar VIII|Le transfert (dans sa disparité subjective)~~. French: (texte établi par Jacques-Alain Miller), Paris: Seuil, 1991. English: unpublished~~]]'' <big>[[Seminar VIII|Transference]]</big>|}

~~In ''~~[[~~La relation d'objet]]'' [[Lacan]] provided a way of understanding the paradoxical function of [[transference]] in the analytical [[cure]].~~ ~~In its [[symbolic]] aspect ([[repetition]]) it helps the cure progress by revealing the signifiers of the subject's history.~~ ~~He argues that in its [[imaginary]] aspect ([[love]] and hate) it acts as a [[resistance]].~~ ~~He uses [[Plato]]'s [[The Symposium]] to illustrate the rapport between [[analysand]] and [[analyst]]: Alcibiades compares Socrates to a box enclosing a precious object, ''agalma''.Just as Alcibiades attributes a hidden treasure to Socrates, so too the patient sees his [[object of desire]] in the analyst.~~ ~~Lacan articulates the ''[[objet a]]'' with ''agalma'', the object of desire we seek in the other.~~ ~~Before, the emphasis was placed on repetition, now it is placed on transference love, ''amour de transfert'': both are inseparable, but the perspective changes.~~ ~~To insist on repetition means to refuse to see in the analytic situation an intersubjective rapport to be dealt with here and now.~~ ~~What [[speech]] constructed in the past can be deconstructed in the cure by speech~~Image: ~~the cure is "pure symbolic experience~~Lacan_Seminar_VIII." On the individual level, it allows for "the reshaping of the imaginary," on the theorethical level for an intersubjective logic to be constructed. Thus, analysis is described as a particular experience of [[desirejpg|border|400px|right]]~~, on the side of [[sexuality]].~~

~~Speech has an effect only after transference.~~ ~~For~~ In [[La relation d'objet]] [[Lacan ~~"it is from~~ ]] provided a way of [[understanding]] the ~~position that~~ paradoxical function of [[transference ~~bestows the analyst with that he intervenes~~ ]] in ~~transference itself," and "transference is interpreted on~~ the ~~basis of and with the aid of transference itself~~[[analytic]]al [[cure]]." In ~~"The direction of the treatment and the principles of~~ its ~~power"~~ [[symbolic]] aspect (~~''Écrits: A Selection''~~[[repetition]]) ~~Lacan presented~~ it helps the [[cure]] [[~~countertransference~~progress]] ~~as a resistance of~~ by revealing the ~~analyst and raised the problem~~ [[signifier]]s of the ~~analyst~~[[subject]]'s ~~desire~~[[history]]. ~~Here, subjective disparity becomes the rule establishing dissymmetry between the two protagonists vis-à-vis desire: what the patient will discover through the disappointment of transference love.~~ ~~Because~~ He argues that in ~~the cure one learns to talk instead of making~~ its [[imaginary]] aspect ([[love~~, in the end desire, which has been purified, is but the empty place where the barred subject accesses desire.~~ ~~We should note that training analysis does not put the analyst beyond passion; to believe that~~ ]] and [[hate]]) it ~~does would mean that all passions stem from the unconscious,~~ [[acts]] as a ~~notion that Lacan rejects~~[[resistance]]. He uses [[Plato]]'s [[The ~~better analysed~~ Symposium]] to illustrate the rapport between analysand and analyst ~~is, the more likely he is~~ : [[Alcibiades]] compares [[Socrates]] to ~~be in love with~~a box enclosing a precious [[object]], ~~or be quite repulsed by, the analysand~~[[agalma]]. ~~In training-analysis there will be~~ Just as Alcibiades attributes a ~~mutation in~~ hidden treasure to Socrates, so too the ~~economy~~ [[patient]] sees his [[object]] of [[desire ]] in the [[analyst~~-to-be: desire will be restructured, so that it will be stronger than passions~~]]. [[Lacan ~~calls it~~ ]] articulates the [[objet a]] with [[agalma]], the [[object of desire ~~proper to~~ ]] we seek in the ~~analyst~~[[other]].

Before, the emphasis was placed on repetition, now it is placed on [[transference]] [[love]], [[amour]] de [[transfert]]: both are inseparable, but the perspective changes. To insist on [[repetition]] means to refuse to see in the analytic [[situation]] an [[intersubjective]] rapport to be dealt with here and now. What [[speech]] constructed in the [[past]] can be deconstructed in the [[cure]] by [[speech]]: the [[cure]] is "pure [[symbolic]] [[experience]]." On the [[individual]] level, it allows for "the reshaping of the [[imaginary]]," on the theorethical level for an intersubjective [[logic]] to be constructed. Thus, [[analysis]] is described as a [[particular]] experience of [[desire]], on the side of [[sexuality]]. [[Speech]] has an effect only after [[transference]]. For [[Lacan]] "it is from the [[position]] that [[transference]] bestows the [[analyst]] with that he intervenes in [[transference]] itself," and "[[transference]] is [[interpreted]] on the basis of and with the aid of [[transference]] itself." In "The direction of the [[treatment]] and the principles of its [[power]]" ([[Écrits: A Selection]]) [[Lacan]] presented [[countertransference]] as a [[resistance]] of the [[analyst]] and raised the problem of the [[analyst]]'s [[desire]]. Here, [[subjective]] disparity becomes the rule establishing dissymmetry between the two protagonists vis-à-vis [[desire]]: what the [[patient]] will discover through the disappointment of [[transference]] [[love]]. Because in the [[cure]] one learns to talk instead of making [[love]], in the end [[desire]], which has been purified, is but the empty [[place]] where the [[barred]] [[subject]] accesses [[desire]]. We should note that [[training analysis]] does not put the [[analyst]] beyond [[passion]]; to believe that it does would mean that all passions stem from the [[unconscious]], a [[notion]] that [[Lacan]] rejects. The better analysed the [[analyst]] is, the more likely he is to be in [[love]] with, or be quite repulsed by, the [[analysand]]. In [[training]]-analysis there will be a mutation in the [[economy]] of [[desire]] in the analyst-to-be: desire will be restructured, so that it will be stronger than passions. [[Lacan]] calls it the [[desire]] proper to the [[analyst]].

In ''The [[~~The~~ Symposium]]'' the [[analyst]]'s position is [[identified ]] with Socrates', while Alcibiades occupies the position of the [[analysand]], who after Socrates will discover himself [[desiring]]. "To isolate oneself with [[another ]] so as to teach him what he is [[lacking ]] and, by the [[nature ]] of [[transference]], he will learn what he is lacking insofar as he [[loves]]: I am not here for his [[Good]], but for him to love me, and for me to disappoint him." A

~~lcibiades~~ Alcibiades desires because he presumes Socrates is in possession of the [[agalma ]] - the [[phallus ]] as desirable. But Socrates refuses the position of ~~loved~~ [[love]]d [[object ]] to assert himself as desiring. For [[Lacan ]] [[desire ]] never occurs between two ~~subjects~~ [[subject]]s but between a [[subject ]] and an overvalorized [[being ]] who has fallen to the [[state ]] of an [[object]]. The only way to discover the other as subject is "to recognize that he speaks an articulated [[language ]] and responds to ours with his own combinations; the other cannot fit into our calculations as someone who coheres like us." Socrates, by shying away from Alcibiades' declaration, by refusing to mask his [[lack ]] with a [[fetish]], and by showing him [[Agathon ]] as the [[true ]] object of his [[love]], shows the [[analyst ]] how to behave: such is the other aspect of "subjective disparity" taking place in [[analysis]]. There is no rapport between what the one possesses and what the other ~~lacks~~[[lack]]s. The [[phallus]], from being [[objet a]], the [[imaginary ]] [[object]], emerges as the [[signifier ]] of ~~signifiers~~[[signifier]]s, as "the only [[signifier ]] that deserves the [[role ]] of [[symbol]]. It designates the [[real ]] [[presence ]] that permits [[identification]], the origin of the [[Ideal]]-of-the-[[Ego ]] on the side of the [[Other]]." There is a [[woman ]] in The Symposium, Diotima, who speaks in the [[form ]] of [[myth]]. In the fable where [[female ]] lack is confronted with [[male ]] resources, the [[feminine ]] first has an [[active ]] role before the desirable [[masculine]]. The [[reversal ]] occurs because in love one only gives what one does not have: the [[masculine]], by shying away from the [[demand]], is revealed as a [[subject ]] of [[desire]]. Later, [[Lacan ]] would make Socrates the [[model ]] of ~~hysterical~~ [[hysteric]]al [[discourse]], but also of [[analytic discourse ]] because he attains the [[knowledge]], the episteme, of [[love]]. Having managed to provoke "a mutation in the economy of his [[desire]]," the [[analyst ]] has access both to the [[unconscious ]] and to the experience of the [[unconscious ]] because, like Socrates, he has confronted the [[desire ]] for [[death ]] and achieved the "between-two-deaths" - entre-deux-morts. Having placed the [[signifier ]] in the position of the absolute, he has abolished "[[fear ]] and trembling." "One puts one's [[desire ]] aside so as to preserve what is the most precious, the [[phallus]], the [[symbol ]] of [[desire]]." [[Desire ]] is only its empty place. ==English==An English [[translation]] of [[Seminar]] VIII, made from unpublished French transcripts, was made by a [[reading]] group associated with [http://www.lacaninireland.com ''Jacques Lacan in Ireland''] and arranged in a presentable form by Tony Hughes.* Download: https://mega.nz/#!zbJiHQxZ!_LLpZHQW96_YAWvZptA49sj7xUFFP5MV4oJY4FPT5hc* Download : http://www.lacaninireland.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/THE-SEMINAR-OF-JACQUES-LACAN-VIII-Draft-21.pdf <pdf width="500" height="500">File:THE-SEMINAR-OF-JACQUES-LACAN-VIII.pdf</pdf> {| class="wikitable sortable" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5"|- style="height: 20px"| [[Author]](s)| Title| Publisher| Year| Pages| Language| Size| Extension| Download|- style="height: 20px"| [[Jacques Lacan]]| Seminar of [[Jacques lacan|Jacques Lacan]] Transference [8] ''978-0-7456-6039-4''| Polity Press| 2015| 460| English| 20 Mb| pdf|[http://library1.org/_ads/58C305EC3C76318540326AD9CD7C264B 1], [http://libgen.io/get.php?md5=58C305EC3C76318540326AD9CD7C264B 2], [http://b-ok.cc/md5/58C305EC3C76318540326AD9CD7C264B 3], [http://libgen.me/item/detail/id/2376017 4], [http://bookfi.net/md5/58C305EC3C76318540326AD9CD7C264B 5]|} ==Related Downloads=={| class="wikitable sortable" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style:"width:100%"|- style="height: 20px"| Author(s)| Title| Publisher| Year| Pages| Language| Size| Extension| Download|- style="height: 20px"| [[Bruce Fink]]| Lacan on Love: An Exploration of Lacan’s Seminar VIII, Transference [ebook ed.] ''1509500537, 9781509500536''| Polity Press| 2015| 288 [247]| English| 1 Mb| pdf|[http://library1.org/_ads/58EAA72329FCC9D0127ACFD1CD72F543 1], [http://libgen.io/get.php?md5=58EAA72329FCC9D0127ACFD1CD72F543 2], [http://b-ok.cc/md5/58EAA72329FCC9D0127ACFD1CD72F543 3], [http://libgen.me/item/detail/id/2314496 4], [http://bookfi.net/md5/58EAA72329FCC9D0127ACFD1CD72F543 5]|- style="height: 20px"| Bruce Fink| Lacan on Love: An Exploration of Lacan’s Seminar VIII, Transference [ebook ed.] ''1509500537, 9781509500536''| Polity Press| 2015| 288 [247]| English| 464 Kb| epub|[http://library1.org/_ads/34F810673148B44308C634D1755D96E2 1], [http://libgen.io/get.php?md5=34F810673148B44308C634D1755D96E2 2], [http://b-ok.cc/md5/34F810673148B44308C634D1755D96E2 3], [http://libgen.me/item/detail/id/2314494 4], [http://bookfi.net/md5/34F810673148B44308C634D1755D96E2 5]|} ===Audio==={{#widget:Iframe|url=https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/playlists/39079464&color=%23ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&show_teaser=true|width=600|height=450|border=0}} ==French==<pdf width="500" height="500">File:Seminaire_08.pdf</pdf> __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__ [[Category:Seminars]] [[Category:Jacques Lacan]]

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