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"[[Need]]" ([[Fr]]. ''[[besoin]]'')
 
 
==Need, Demand and Desire==
 
Around 1958, [[Lacan]] develops an important distinction between three terms:
 
* [[need]],
 
* [[demand]] and
 
* [[desire]].
 
 
===Need and Instinct===
 
In the context of this distinction, "[[need]]" comes close to what [[Freud]] referred to as "[[instinct]]" (''[[Instinkt]]''); that is, a purely ''[[biological]]'' concept opposed to the realm of the [[drive]] (''[[Trieb]]'').
 
 
===Need and Demand===
 
[[Lacan]] bases this distinction on the fact that in order to satisfy his [[needs]] the infant must articulate them in [[language]]; in other words, the infant must articulate his [[needs]] in a "[[demand]]".
 
 
However, in doing so, something else is introduced which causes a split between [[need]] and [[demand]]; this is the fact that every [[demand]] is not only an articulation of [[need]] but also an (unconditional) [[demand]] for [[love]].
 
 
Now, althought the other to whom the [[demand]] is addressed (in the first instance, the [[mother]]) can and may supply the [[object]] which satisfies the infant's [[need]], she is never in a position to answer the [[demand]] for [[love]] unconditionally, because she too is divided.
 
 
The result of this split between [[need]] and [[demand]] is an insatiable leftover, which is [[desire]] itself.
 
 
===Need and Desire===
 
[[Need]] is thus an intermittent tension which arises for purely organic reasons and which is discharged entirely by the specific action corresponding to the particular [[need]] in question.
 
 
[[Desire]], on the other hand, is a constand force which can never be satisfied, the constant 'pressure' which underlies the [[drives]].
 
 
===Hypothesis===
 
This account presents in chronological terms what is in fact a question of [[structure]].
 
 
In truth, it is not the case that there first exists a [[subject]] of pure [[need]] which then attempts to articulate that [[need]] in [[language]], since the distinction between pure [[need]] and its articulation in [[demand]] only exists from the moment of its articulation, by which time it is impossible to determine what that pure [[need]] could have been.
 
 
The concept of a pre-[[linguistic]] [[need]] is thus merely a hypothesis, and the [[subject]] of this pure [[need]] is a mythical [[subject]]; even the paradigmatic [[need]] of hunger never exists as a pure [[biological]] given, but is marked by the [[structure]] of [[desire]].
 
 
Nevertheless, this hypothesis is useful to [[Lacan]] for maintaining his theses about the radical divergence between human desire and all natural or biological categories.
 
 
==See Also==
 
* [[Demand]]
 
* [[Desire]]
 
* [[Drive]]
 
  
  
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The concept of a pre-linguistic need is thus merely a hypothesis, and the subject of this pure need is a mythicla subject.
 
The concept of a pre-linguistic need is thus merely a hypothesis, and the subject of this pure need is a mythicla subject.
  
==See Also==
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{{Encore}}
* [[Demand]]
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: [[Necessity]], 59, 94
* [[Desire]]
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: [[Needs]], 51
* [[Drive]]
 

Latest revision as of 11:23, 12 November 2006


-- It is not the case that there first exists a subject of pur eneed which then attempts to articulate that need in language, since the distinction between pure need and its articulation in demand only exists from the moment of its articulation, by which time it is impossible ot determine what that pure need could have been. The concept of a pre-linguistic need is thus merely a hypothesis, and the subject of this pure need is a mythicla subject.

Index
Necessity, 59, 94
Needs, 51