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[[Freud]] borrowed the term ''[[das Es]] (which the ''[[Standard Edition]]'' translates as "[[the Id]]") from Georg Groddeck, one of the first [[German]] [[psychistrists]] to support [[psychoanalysis]], although [[Freud]] also noted, Groddeck himself seems to have taken the term from Nietzche.<ref>{{F}} 1923b. SE XIX. p.23. p.3; Nietzsche. 1886. p.47</ref>
Groddeck argued that "what we call the ego behaves essentially passively in life, and ... we are "lived" by known and uncontrollable forces,"<ref>Freud, {{F}} 1923b. SE XIX. p.23</ref> and used the term ''das Es'' to denote these forces.
The term first appears in [[Freud]]'s work in the early 1920s, in the context of the second model of the pysche; in this model, the psyche is divided into three agencies: the id, the ego and the superego.
The [[id ]] corresponds roughly to what Freud called the unconsicous system in his first model of the psyche, but there are also important differences between these two concepts.
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One of Freud's most famous statements concerns the id and its relationship with psychoanalytic treatment; ''Wo Es war, soll Ich werden (which the Standard Edition renders "Where id was, there ego shall be.")<ref>Freud {{F}} 1933a. [[SE ]] XXII. p80p.80</ref>
One common reading of this cryptic statement has been to take it as meaning that the task of psychoanalytic treatment is to enlarge the field of consicousness; it is just such a reading that is crstyallized in the original French translation of Freud's statement - ''le moi doit dEloger la Ca'' (the ego shall dislodge the id).
